'You are never going to get this back': Danielle Fishel on 'Boy Meets World' burnout, her momager, and how the lessons she's learned shape the way she directs young actors (2024)

Danielle Fishel is the first to say she had as normal of an adolescence as any child actor could've had.

Fishel's breakthrough and most well-known role was as Topanga Lawrence on the ABC sitcom "Boy Meets World," the unexpected hit of the network's millennial-beloved "TGIF" line-up. Viewers quite literally grew up alongside Fishel, who started on the show as a 12-year-old in season one, and her character, who went from the quirky preteen frenemy of series lead Cory Matthews (Ben Savage) to Cory's eventual wife over the course of the show's seven-year run.

In real life, Fishel attended Calabasas High School when she wasn't filming the show, attending football games and the prom just like most "normal" high schoolers do. Except her prom date was Lance Bass, a member of NSYNC, the hottest boy band of the late '90s and early 2000s.

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No matter how surreal her life then may have seemed to many of us — the "un-romcom" she and Bass are working on about their brief relationship is "at the very top of both of our lists," she tells Insider, noting that there are screenwriters attached and they are eyeing a potential 2024 release — Fishel had one constant in her life: her mother, Jennifer.

Fishel credits Jennifer, who quit her own job to act as Fishel's manager for a time, with helping her avoid the dark path familiar to many child stars

"She used to say to me, I can handle anything you tell me except a lie,'" Fishel says. She took the words to heart and felt comfortable dropping any "bombshell" on her mother, whether it was about sex, drugs, or anything in between.

But even her ever-present momager couldn't protect her from the "weird power dynamics and power structures" actors inevitably find on any Hollywood set, Fishel recalled.

"It's a very adult environment where we are asking children to be children but also act like adults," she adds.

In a conversation about her latest directing project, the Tubi original film "Classmates," Fishel spoke about tough on-set moments early in her career on "Boy Meets World," her acting hiatus spent gift-wrapping at Bloomingdale's, and how the lessons she's learned along the way have shaped her as a person and as a director.

Fishel says she'd 'burnt out' by the end of 'Boy Meets World' and spent her 'mid-20s crisis' wrapping gifts at Bloomingdale's and denying that she'd played Topanga

'You are never going to get this back': Danielle Fishel on 'Boy Meets World' burnout, her momager, and how the lessons she's learned shape the way she directs young actors (1)

On their rewatch podcast, iHeartRadio's "Pod Meets World," Fishel and her "Boy Meets World" costars Rider Strong (who played Cory's best friend Shawn Hunter) and Will Friedle (who played his brother Eric Matthews) don't shy away from talking about the more negative aspects of their former jobs.

Strong recalled how it felt as if the show's creator, Michael Jacobs, had an idea in his head of what he wanted each episode to be, and if the actors didn't live up to that idea exactly, there was a sense on set that the episode was "falling apart."

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Fishel shared in the same podcast episode that Jacobs once chastised her in front of the entire cast and crew, telling her he was going to save the notes on her performance for last because "if I made everyone sit here through all of the notes I have for you we would all be here for hours, and no one would ever get to go home." Jacobs then privately threatened to fire her if her acting didn't improve, she said.

She described her experience on set as "chasing the dragon of Michael approval." By the time "Boy Meets World" ended, she was burnt out from the unnecessary pressure of, as she put it, reaching for someone else's unrealistic expectations of perfection.

'You are never going to get this back': Danielle Fishel on 'Boy Meets World' burnout, her momager, and how the lessons she's learned shape the way she directs young actors (2)

Fishel tells Insider she had a "mid-twenties crisis" trying to figure out what to do with her life when acting roles became scarce after "Boy Meets World." So she decided to pivot.

Around 2009, while in college, she took a seasonal job gift-wrapping for Bloomingdale's as she pursued her education. If people recognized her and asked her if she was "the girl from that show," she says she'd deny it and keep wrapping their gift whether they believed her or not.

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In 2013, at 32, Fishel graduated from CSU Fullerton with a degree in psychology. She had just gotten an acceptance letter from Chapman University and was planning to pursue a Master's degree in marriage and family therapy when her phone rang.

Jacobs, the "Boy Meets World" creator, was on the line, telling her he had plans for a spinoff called "Girl Meets World." She would reprise her role as Topanga, who was now living in Manhattan with Cory and their two children, Riley (Rowan Blanchard) and Auggie (August Maturo).

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Fishel says she took the offer because it was a "once-in-a-lifetime opportunity." But after spending a season in front of the camera as her alter ego, she knew she had to put her psychology degree and acting experience together to try and create a more positive vibe on the set of the reboot, this time as a director. The decision changed her life.

Fishel says she takes her job seriously, but it's 'also not brain surgery or saving somebody's life'

'You are never going to get this back': Danielle Fishel on 'Boy Meets World' burnout, her momager, and how the lessons she's learned shape the way she directs young actors (3)

Despite the notes incident she had with Jacobs in her early days, Fishel is only complimentary of Jacobs now that she's an adult, telling Insider she "would never have been able to direct" if it weren't for him giving her the chance to step behind the camera on "Girl Meets World." Fishel directed several episodes before the show was canceled in 2017.

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Having experienced the stress of being a child actor firsthand, Fishel now says that creating a comfortable environment for kids is a top priority when she's in the director's chair. Though she's been directing sitcoms like "Girl Meets World" and "Raven's Home" for nearly a decade now, "Classmates," written by her husband Jensen Karp, is her biggest project yet. The film stars Camille Kostek and Anjelica Bette Fellini as college students who switch identities on the first day of college and find themselves learning lessons and navigating trouble they never expected.

Fishel describes her demeanor on set as "calm" and "cool," and she credits that attitude with keeping her actors comfortable. "I take everything that we're doing seriously and it is important, but it is also not brain surgery or saving somebody's life," she says. "And the number one thing that is most important to me is that everybody who works on my sets feels valued and respected."

Fishel works almost exclusively on content geared toward young adults and says that in her experience, actors need to learn to blame themselves less for changes that happen on set. "What I wish actors knew is that it is very rarely ever about you," she says.

That's something Fishel wishes she could've told her younger self, who burned out trying to attain a level of impossible perfection. She also wishes she could've told teen Danielle to appreciate her years on "Boy Meets World" and enjoy the ride a bit more: "You are never going to get this back. And this feeling you have that you're missing out on life is a lie."

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"Classmates" is streaming on Tubi now.

'You are never going to get this back': Danielle Fishel on 'Boy Meets World' burnout, her momager, and how the lessons she's learned shape the way she directs young actors (2024)

FAQs

Did Danielle Fishel actually cut her hair in Boy Meets World? ›

Danielle Fishel says cutting her own hair in an episode of Boy Meets World was “intense.” On the most recent episode of rewatch podcast Pod Meets World, Fishel and co-hosts Rider Strong and Will Friedle were joined by Jeff McCracken, the director of every episode of the '90s sitcom's fourth season.

What did Danielle Fishel do after Boy Meets World? ›

Following Boy Meets World, Fishel began to work heavily in television, and in 2003 co-hosted Say What? Karaoke on MTV for one season. Fishel also appeared in several films, including National Lampoon's Dorm Daze.

Did Danielle Fishel have a crush on? ›

Danielle Fishel didn't hold back when revisiting her crush on Rider Strong — and her jealousy of this then-girlfriend, Rachael Leigh Cook. During the Thursday, October 26, episode of “Pod Meets World,” Fishel, 42, took a trip down memory lane via an old diary she wrote in 1996 and recently rediscovered.

Did Topanga have a crush on Shawn in real life? ›

"I'll go first," said Fishel, who played Topanga Lawrence. "I had a crush on Rider [Strong]." "That's not true," said a surprised Strong, 42, who played bad boy Shawn Hunter. "You've never told me that."

Did Shawn and Topanga ever kiss? ›

After a director has Shawn and Topanga kiss while making a promotional film, Cory-certain the duo are harboring romantic feelings for one another-directs them to go on a date and explore their emotions.

Who married Topanga in real life? ›

Danielle Fishel may be known for her character Topanga's iconic relationship with Cory in Boy Meets World, but in real life, her husband Jensen Karp has her heart. Fishel and Karp met in 1995 when they were both attending Calabasas High School.

Who was supposed to play Topanga in Boy Meets World? ›

Actress Bonnie Morgan was almost cast as Topanga Lawrence on “Boy Meets World,” but says she lost the role because director David Trainer did not think she was “pretty enough.”

How old was Danielle Fishel in season 1 of Boy Meets World? ›

Fishel played Topanga Lawrence for seven seasons on the ABC show Boy Meets World, starting at age 12 in 1993, with the show ending in 2000.

Did Cory and Topanga date in real life? ›

When asked on Saturday if she ever had a relationship with her costar from the popular coming-of-age 1990s sitcom, Fishel said, "No, we never dated." However, after a couple of years of playing childhood sweethearts Cory Matthews and Topanga Lawrence, Fishel admitted that she and Savage did try to give it a shot.

Who dated in real life on Boy Meets World? ›

Ben Savage

The actor, who became a fan favorite for his role as Cory, went on one date with his costar Danielle Fishel when they were teens. Since then, the Girl Meets World alum has preferred not to address his personal life. In January 2023, Savage confirmed his engagement to Tessa Angermeier.

Did Jonathan Taylor Thomas date Danielle Fishel? ›

Fishel — who famously dated Jonathan Taylor Thomas and Lance Bass in the '90s and early '00s — explained that being sexualized as a teen made her “bad at boundaries." She shared that it took her “years” before she was able to “connect the dots” on how it negatively impacted her own personal and romantic relationships.

When did Topanga cut her hair? ›

They came up with a compromise: In the 1996 episode “Hair Today, Goon Tomorrow,” Topanga cut her own hair on-screen to prove to her boyfriend Cory (Ben Savage) that what made her beautiful was her confidence and intelligence, not her looks. But the chop turned out to be more traumatic than she expected.

Why was Shawn dressed as a girl in Boy Meets World? ›

In order to get a better understanding of how girls think, Cory and Topanga disguise Shawn as a girl and arrange a date for him.

What episode of Boy Meets World does Topanga cut her hair? ›

S4 E2: Topanga cuts her hair to prove to Cory that inner beauty is more important than physical appearance.

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